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Tuesday, July 01, 2008
  An inch too far: Barr on Iraq, Patriot Act, MM
I think that our candidates - especially at the highest level - need to be watched and analyzed carefully and critically. Such analysis can be support for the campaign if accepted in the right spirit - as support. A transcript allows us to look carefully at what Barr said - bearing in mind that he is talking live, and anyone is liable to some slips under those conditions. The Wallace interview (link below for transcript)

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,373450,00.html

grabbed a lot of Lib attention because of Barr's self-praise on DOMA; rather astonishing to those who thought they'd heard him promise to work to repeal the Act. However, there are a few other points of note, and frankly, some deeper concerns for me regarding Barr's foreign policy - and area he has always been fairly cagey on with Libertarians - calling for 'no rush to war with Iran', for instance, while not repudiating his former support for the warfare of embargoes.

Two domestic concerns first:
"The powers in the Patriot Act have been used and abused by the Bush administration far in excess of what the Congress intended for it, and it's those abuses that have led I and a lot of other folks who voted for it under false pretenses essentially to work against it."

He should consider the Libertarian implications there: that ANY piece of legislation is quite liable to 'use and abuse', and that must be factored in when considering it. Once this insight sinks in - if it ever does - he should consider sharing it with the electorate when he has a chance to speak to them.
First he repeats Hillary's feeble and whining excuse "Bush lied!":

"With regard to the vote for hostilities in Iraq, that was a vote that was based on what we now know to be inappropriate and erroneously analyzed intelligence."

Somehow Ron Paul wasn't fooled. Oh, wait, Ron Paul wouldn't have voted FOR it even if he had believed the ass George Bush. There is the lesson Barr seems to have missed. The war was wrong even granting the false premises.

He continues:

"That vote certainly was not intended -- was not presented to the Congress or myself in the Congress at the time as a vote for a multiyear, perhaps multidecade, occupation of Iraq."

Umm, so the invasion itself was OK; it's just occupation that's not? That certainly seems to be the implication here, bolstered by the very next comment:

"Here again, the administration has taken an inch and gone a mile, sometimes in very clear contravention of what Congress intended."

So he did agree with the 'inch' of invasion - just not the 'mile' of occupation? That seems to be the only clear interpretation of what he says here. This is pretty disturbing stuff for the LP's presidential candidate. He doesn't - as far as I can tell - at all here repudiate his vote on the Iraq War - he simply laments that it, like the PATRIOT Act, was 'used and abused'; that the Administration took his 'inch' and made it a 'mile' - with no indication that the Libertarian Party position is that the inch was already an inch too far.
 
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Can't stand Barr. That's why I'm with the Boston Tea Party and candidate Charles Jay.
 
Charles Jay' VP AND friend as presidential candidate of the "Personal Choice Party" in 2004 is none other than
an ex-adult star, M. Chambers, way to go, Jim. Jay was first attracted to libertarianism because of legalization of pornography. Now we know something about you too, Jim.

Dear Susan: I reacted to this post on lastfreevoice. I might add that apparently many congressrepresentatives of the Patriot Act did not even has time to read through the 315 page law! I remember hearing Ron Paul also had no time, but his instincts told him to vote no, and how correct it has proven out to be. With this as background, I do not think one can blame Barr too much for voting in favor.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pMdNn1aE0I
It is quite scary to hear many bills get past without everybody even reading it, and then most of the sheep just vote according to party line.
 
Stefan,

1) Your comment to Jim makes is both rude and asinine. Congratulations for hitting a double!

2) Of course Barr can be blamed. But my post is not about blaming him for his past bad votes, but blaming him for sticking UP for those past bad votes.
 
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